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Getting a job…employers perspective

I have seen some posts about how hard it is to find a job, keep a job, find employers who understand family commitments and diversity etc…

My perspective is from an employer. I am a manager (in his 50’s) who struggles to find an employee with solid work ethics. Maybe I am old school but the employees that have failed at this job:

*expect a raise without doing anything to deserve it
*care more about their next pay than the job and company
*have no respect for equipment and environment
*expect days off within their first year of employment (I always try to accommodate but some act like they are entitled)
*think they can go on several smoke breaks
*could not take constructive criticism, although they said it was welcomed during their interview. I never yell but ask them how I can help them improve because everyone learns and responds differently. I usually get tears and excuses.
*had no common sense.
*took no ownership of their mistakes
*caused and reveled in office drama/gossip

I strive to make my employees happy because I am a firm believer that a happy employee is a good employee. But I am finding that there are so many ungrateful people who expect something for nothing.

I see so many people complaining they can’t get a job. Word of advice?

**Send a good cover letter specifically for the job you applied for.
**Check your spelling and grammar.
**Don’t write a novel.
**Don’t lie.
**Job jumpers are red flags!

If you are called for an interview, your phone etiquette is important.
**Be friendly and courteous!
**Dress well and be groomed. Put some effort into your appearance.
**Smile:) It is not overrated!
**Don’t start by asking about pay.
**If they have a website, make sure you familiarize yourself with it. Research some background information. It will be appreciated, trust me.
**Prepare some good questions.
**If you are only looking for short term, be honest. Many companies spend a lot of time and money training, only to find out you are going back to school.
**Thank the employer for their time.

This will set you apart from most people.

Thank you for your time;)

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  1. That’s pretty good and accurate

  2. I couldn’t agree more

  3. Sheri Enger Sheri Enger says:

    Very true post!, we owned a company and had all the same issues. Thank god we sold it and don’t have to deal with employees

  4. Amy Coleman Amy Coleman says:

    It sounds like the issue is that you and the company you represent have not modified the company to remain competitive in the market for attraction, retention, and motivation of employees. From your “perspective”, I can say that you need an overhaul on how you engage your employees. Generation Zs are very different from Baby Boomers and children of Boomers. This is your new workforce base… find a way to change your attitude and corporate culture so people actually feel they are empowered to do their jobs.

  5. Thank you your suggestions are common practices. I apply them all and I agree that some people just dont understand that it is just common sense

  6. I agree with Jackie Honour….do you know how long it has taken me to find a job! I only now am in a temporary role but no one wants to take a chance on the older people. The younger people these days were not taught work ethics but rather a sense of entitlement.

  7. Dow Hocken Dow Hocken says:

    I’m currently looking for work of some sort. My problem is I don’t really have much of a resume, because I haven’t worked since 2001(I’m on AISH) so I’m not sure what to put down for my work history. I’m willing to do pretty much anything, and I know my way around a computer.

  8. Stop hiring young people! My husband in his ’50’s was at his wits end trying to find a job. Finally someone hired him, and they are “so amazed” at his work ethic. Take a chance on an older worker.

  9. I agree with this post. I’ve had jobs since my teenage years (when we came to Canada). I have never been fired, I always got hired after an interview and I gave 110% to every job and task. Most of my employers from my past are still people I keep contact with and use if needed for references.

    However while it sounds like you would be the employer I would love to work for, some are not like that.
    After my injury, I was let go for being in a wheelchair. I had a desk job and it would not have any relevance to my day to day tasks at all. While I did go above and report this to Government Human Resources, I received a settlement in exchange for not going into court action. But that still makes me remember feeling betrayed. I gave a lot of years to that job, many thank yous and awards…many times giving up my days off without expecting even to get paid just because it is what I was told you do – you care about your work and your employer, company, co-workers…only to be dismissed illegally.

    I have since seen that in some places. When you honestly mention a physical handicap, you are asked if you would take less pay (than those less qualified than you) or whether you should re-take a class. My business degree from university does not change whether I was in full mobility or limited. I saw that yesterday that many employers do not think those in wheelchairs are able to do income tax as well as those not handicapped (the field I was looking at). How is that exactly?

    Again, I think the way you wrote it, you sound like one employer who wouldn’t have such limited small mind

  10. Hubby’s been out of work 21 months. Countless resumes sent out and a few random interviews. Do they want to 20 yrs olds to get the jobs? 55 yr old male can lift 50 to 100 lbs…on time, attention to detail. Warehouse experience. Can’t find work. It sucks when you spend so much time and effort only to be told someone else got hired. You are missing out on someone trained w loads of experience who doesn’t smoke, could care less about gossip and just wants to work a full day for a decent wage.

  11. Great advice! There’s always room for improvement. Thank you

  12. Sorry Sir, this world is not exist and last seen in the 90’s or maybe it’s only 1% from today’s market.
    Let me tell you today’s standards.
    1- Who you know?
    2- How you look like?
    13- Work experience.
    14- Education.
    Employees are being selected before the interview just because they meet the first and second standards above. No wonder why employees are not motivated and there is a huge decline in quality. Just saying

  13. Great post!
    Kids and young adults today are never being told “No”, and then one day they have to work and nobody wants to work with those kind of people. It all starts in childhood and school, I feel so bad for teachers. Heaven forbid they put your kid in place and even raise their voices. My kids knew (and still know) that their teachers have my 100% backing when it comes to disciplining them. I don’t see them in a school environment, even on field trips, kids are going to act different knowing mom is there. So really, we don’t see how our kids act. I also tell my kids teachers to push them on things, because they need to know how it feels to push past being uncomfortable about things, whatever it may be. and usually in the end they are so proud of themselves. They are in cadets (AMAZING for teens!) they make kids own their shit, good or bad.
    I tell my teens. School is a prep for real life, work life but waaaay softer. Lol. My kids will be able to take criticism, because they know they can only learn from it. They will own up to their mistakes and they will make many mistakes, like all of us, but they will be able to say “I messed up, what can I do to fix it.” Learning to say sorry. Hardly anyone says “sorry” anymore. It’s always someone else’s fault, NO, sometimes it is your fault! I say sorry to my kids when I mess up, they need to see that adults mess up too and we need to own up to them and move on.

  14. And cancel the interview if you’re no longer interested. Please don’t no-show.

  15. On the other side of the coin, I’ve seen loyal hard working people get let go because company found someone cheaper. I’ve seen people replaced with automation. I’ve seen departments downsized with the remaining people having to take on additional work with no additional pay. I’ve seen managers playing favouritism that hurt employees who aren’t included. Ethic goes both ways. You sound like a decent manager though.

  16. I mostly agree, however do not expect a person to care more about the company than about their pay if as an employer your don’t care more about the employee as a person than about your bottom line.

    As for time off, everyone deserves time off imo, within reasonable amounts. That said, if I get hired for a new job and have already created plans before hiring I am not changing those plans (and I am up front about it in the interview). It has never impeded me yet. For example I do obstacle course racing. Which means during race season I need a decent portion of weekends off and a few weekdays based on travel. I have been up front in interviews about this fact and it has never held me back from being accepted for a job. So while it may sound like someone feeling entitled the trade off is the company gets an employee that goes above and beyond daily, comes in on days off, always striving for better. Anybody my employers have found it to be worth giving me the time off I request during racing season to have me as an employee.

    But then again I am not one complaining of no work. I am almost always working 2-3 jobs at a time.

  17. Larry Larry Larry Larry says:

    Great posting….i think you would be great to work for….people tend to forget that you are also doing your job….you…unless your the owner also have people to answer to…being in the workforce myself …at the same job for 42 yrs. and I still love it…Ive seen every one of those personalities go thru my facility….many people dont respect their employers or coworkers….and definitely see self entitlement….there will always be those “trouble makers….those office gossipers…and the lazy ones”….the employer has every right to weed those ones out….one of those can sour a whole office full of people….

  18. Tara Boucher Tara Boucher says:

    My daughter will be 17 in July. While there may be a lot of entitled young people out there keep your eye out for the ones coming who aren’t. She works and is responsible and puts in the effort it takes to do a good job.
    I’m happy to see these tips and will keep in mind for her future.

  19. Ann Austin Ann Austin says:

    I believe you, i see it everyday.

  20. Lori Zazulak Lori Zazulak says:

    very well said, I completely agree 100%

  21. Jessy Lynn Jessy Lynn says:

    Your tips are all valid, it’s the first part of your post that gets me. It sounds to me like your employee retention and incentive practices may be lacking if you have this many issues.
    I work for a company that places value in their employees in numerous ways. My first year here, my boss ASKED me if I was planning on taking my kids on vacation, allowed me to odd afternoon off to go to their events, etc. Cost of living ‘increases’ yearly are the norm here, not a lot but it helps to offset some of it. Employee BBQs and Christmas parties are some of the best I’ve ever had. Honestly, when I started here I didn’t know companies like this even existed anymore. At the same time, there are employees who’ve worked here 10, 15, 20 years and turn over is insanely low. What do you, as a company, do to ensure you maintain long-term, quality employees and, in turn, keep your training costs low? From your post it doesn’t sound like much.

  22. You can really tell who works minimum wage and who doesn’t in the comments. I’m a co owner with my spouse, I’ve also worked minimum wage when times were slow. I think more parents/entrepreneurs/people with more responsibility then getting that Xbox next week if they could viably work at your company and support them selfs and codependents. We pay our employees good and if we are struggling we make sure our employees come first. I’ve been on both side of the fence and I can tell you I stoped caring about a job when I felt I wasn’t being heard not being able to support my self and have to direct my energy in making the Money up some where else

  23. Vanna Brule Vanna Brule says:

    I agree with much of this but one stuck out.

    It is unreasonable to expect an employee to care more about a company or a job than their pay.

    I love my job, and I care a lot about the work I do, but if I wasn’t being paid appropriately or had to worry about if and when my next pay were coming, I would be quite distracted as well. At the end of the day we can all care about our jobs but we need money to live. Living paycheque to paycheque or not being able to afford to live is an extremely distracting, stressful place to be. And given that whatever company I work for would likely replace me in a heartbeat if necessary, my financial well being comes before my loyalty to any company or employer.

  24. When I was out of work, I took a job that paid less than what I was making before being laid off. I decided that working was better than being on EI. I have a lot of years accounting experience. Well, they expected me to work a whole year with no vacation, even after telling me I could take a day as I earned it. No sick time. Also I was supposed to be in the profit sharing,but told me after being hired it was a year in. I was overqualified, bit they told me I would get a raise as free 3 months then paid me less than they said, even though my review was stellar.
    So, after 8 months I left because i felt they had told me a bunch of lies to get me to work there. I hated it so much there. Found out later other people had left after 2 weeks, a month etc. I had lasted the longest of anyone recently in that job.
    So, if a company lies to their employees just to get them to take the job they’re not going to stay. I see this a lot now.
    Now I’m at a good company and happy.

  25. This is so very true… you need to also look at your self

  26. Val Lav Val Lav says:

    You might be paying below living wage (which is common). This would mean your employees are tired/irritable after moonlighting this or other jobs, are primarily concerned with pay and so ask for raises too early, care more about the next payday than the actual job etc.

    Try upping the pay to start at around living wage or even a bit higher if you want to be even more selective for the right employee for you.

  27. “*expect days off within their first year of employment (I always try to accommodate but some act like they are entitled)”
    Once they’ve worked enough hours for vacation pay they are entitled to it. Within the first year an employee will have 10 business days worth of pay they can take, you cant tell them they are not allowed. I get being upset in the first three months but once they have the time banked that is theres to use.

  28. Cindy Dato Cindy Dato says:

    Thank you for all of the advice, it will help my 16 year old find a job. He’s applied for so many, but with no luck.

  29. I can agree with most of this, but you also kinda can’t blame people for wanting to be paid well/get a raise right away when it can be a struggle just to put food on the table. Theres probably hopefully some fairly good reason that they need money, and that same reason could be why they’re asking for time off/smoke breaks/etc. Attitudes are different these days with relation to work life balance, but that’s in result of our current economic and social climate of capitalism failing, climate change threatening our very existence, and so forth. I could say that you have very stringent expectations of your employees, but I do not want to argue. In summary, circumstances are different these days than they were many years ago and we have a lot going on. At the very least, it’s a good idea to pay people well enough so they can take care of personal things and focus on their job. I wish you well, sir.

  30. I think an employee worrying about their paycheck over the company is warranted. How much they get paid and benefits should be their top priority. Sure, it needs to be tactical, but it is crucial to their value within the company.

    I am sorry, but it’s like asking a company to care more about an employee than their bottom line. Not. Going. To. Happen.

  31. Another word of advice, be honest and upfront with your potential employer. I got hired on at a new job a couple of months ago. I told them I needed 2 weeks off for my dad’s 80th birthday which is out of province. They thanked me for my honesty and said it wouldnt be a problem. They hired me and every day tell me what a good job I am doing and never leave us because I have strong work ethics, respect and know whatever I do represents the company. I have proven myself to be a valuable asset which is what employers are looking for. I got hired at my job with zero past experience in what I do and actually look forward to going to work.

  32. Lyn Hessels Lyn Hessels says:

    Age isn’t the issue, maturity is. No demographic owns the “best employee candidate” award. Younger people seem to learn new tasks quicker than older people and are a bit more malleable, but older people usually handle customers with more patience and tact but have a lot of “unlearning” to do because of how things may have been done in previous roles. There’s the entitlement issue in all generations and there’s there are drama queens (and kings) of all ages who can’t handle learning opportunities.

  33. It took my son 2 years to get a full time job…he’s held a P/T job for 5 years and he holds a F/T and P/T job…he wasn’t a job Jumper…he has his grade 12 diploma but he didn’t want to go to secondary schooling cause he did not want to have a student loans or loans that would be detrimental to his future of owning hundreds of thousands of dollars… many employers don’t want a young man out of high school…my son is a hard worker he’s a go getter…but still it took 2 years to find a full time job….he’s very humbled and gracious he was offered this full time job…and it’s through connections we and he made….it’s so difficult that employers want young people to have a secondary schooling and not give them a chance to train them the way the company would like them trained…it’s not like it was 40 or 50 years ago where the employer would give young people the opportunity and train them for the job that is expected of them….unfortunately so young people have secondary schooling where they owe hundreds of thousands of dollars and still cannot find a job they went to school for….Just hope many young people are given the opportunity to get a job like my son did and grow from their experience!!! Good luck all!!!

  34. Great Post! Thanks for making the effort!

  35. Agree with most of this except two points.

    1. It’s only natural that employees are going to care about their pay more than the company; that’s literally the only reason they’re there. Your employees are not volunteers.

    2. Why shouldn’t people get time off within the first year? People have lives outside of their jobs. A reasonable amount of time off is fair.

  36. I could not work a full year without one day of vacation or personal days. Many people have kids and therefore things come up. Balance between work and family is hard to achieve. Vacation or days off make it possible.

  37. When people come to interviews in workout clothes, I know they dont even care. They dont really want a job.

  38. If you’re having a hard time finding the right employees, what do you offer in exchange? What makes your business worth working for? All your points are valid, but what do you offer in terms of employer quality? If all you have to give them in terms of meeting your criteria is a paycheck, that’s the only thing they’re going to care about.

  39. Very Well said! Thank You! I hope some read and do these things!!!

  40. Employees are entitled to days off in their first year.

    A lot of these issues come down to employee engagement. If there are that many issues with employees, it’s possible you need to look in the mirror as a manager. Are you a good leader or are you just carrying a big stick and expecting people to follow you. What worked 30 years ago isn’t going to work today.

  41. That’s my issue is there is gaps in my employment, what kind of advice could you give for someone with that? If you feel the need to, please PM me. I do have more questions.

  42. Jeff Gorski Jeff Gorski says:

    Are you managing a McDonald’s by chance?

  43. Jenn Jerebic Jenn Jerebic says:

    Okay so from an employees point of view who works retail… I’ve worked extremely hard picked up shifts came in last minute and went above and beyond my daily duties …. in return I got my hours cut – and other staff hired so they don’t have to give us 8hr shifts. I have fairly open availability and still don’t get utilized the way we should. So I understand why some people don’t work hard, youth are entitled but I’ve met people my age who are just there for a pay check too, but at the end of the day my employer fucked over good staff to save a dime.

  44. Job jumpers? Lots of companies promise the moon and stars but never deliver on it, there are ad many bad companies as bad employees other than that, I agree with most of what you say.

  45. My hubby has had a hard time finding work as he has been a stay at home dad for 3 years..people are turned off because he hasn’t been working, makes it hard for us to pay the bills when the rent doubled and I am the only paycheck.

  46. Brian George Brian George says:

    This is what to expect when hiring millennials and post millennials…. my advice is hire people that are 38 years of age and older as they have the work ethic and smarts to advance your company

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