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I am an alcoholic and I need help.

I don’t want to go to AA because it is religious.

Is there any other groups out there that are not religion based?

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  1. Aa is not religious

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  2. Les Ley Les Ley says:

    it is not religious. it encourages you getting in touch with powers greater than you, but that could be anything you want it to be! AA is a phenomenal program.

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  3. You should try a few meetings definitely not religious

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  4. Chris Dumais Chris Dumais says:

    Let’s grab a beer and talk about it.

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  5. AA has a lot of doctrine stating that those in AA are trying to achieve a spiritual awakening. It can be seen as quite religious. I hope the OP finds a group that are committed to changing themselves with their inner strength they have, not from unforseen powers in the world.

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  6. Tom Murphy Tom Murphy says:

    I would recommend looking for positive people who are clean and are good support I’ve quit many addicting substances cold turkey the people I hang around respect my decisions

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  7. Brad Daniels Brad Daniels says:

    When I first tried to quit I went to a.a. it just wasn’t for me either. I quit on my own after hitting rock bottom and I have now been sober for 17 months. In those 17 months not one time did I go to a.a. if you maybe call places like aadac maybe you can find something. Also I can talk as well because I want to help people who are going through this as I know what it’s like

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  8. Alberta mental health and addictions have day programs . Go in early for an intake appointment and they will help u

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  9. Honestly I tried AA and it very much is religious. I’m spiritual and it was too much for me.
    I’m not going to pray to a god for my own recover. I’m going to pray to myself,because it’s my own struggle.
    I getcha OP.
    I’d personally call 311 and see if they have options for you.

    Keep on keeping on man. You got this <3

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  10. You’re amazing. Not many people with addictions will ever say those words.

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  11. Maja Black Maja Black says:

    As is very religious, they say your higher power, but even their prayer of serenity mentions god.

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  12. Check out the book “Recovery” by Russell Brand. He goes through the 12 Step Program from a largely non-religious perspective.

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  13. Sam Douglas Sam Douglas says:

    Find a qualified psychiatrist.

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  14. AA is so not religious. If that’s what you think, you’re mistaken.

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    • Catherine Bois The prayer is directed toward a “higher power”, not necessarily a God. It helps people put their beliefs that the universe is there to help them to succeed through their journey in sobriety.

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    • Alden Gushnowski So religion.

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    • Catherine Bois it’s a spiritual program you choose your own concept. It could be the group if you like.

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    • Jason Ackerman No, that’s not religion anymore than yelling out “Oh God, Oh God” while having sex is religious.

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    • And also you don’t even “have” to do anything. U can go to meetings and just listen. There are no requirements of you

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    • This is step 3 of AA

      3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

      So yes it is religious.

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    • Brass Staggerton if you went to meetings and listened you would know….have a good day, not here to argue with anyone I have better things to do.

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    • Dont need to. I’ve known people who have walked out due to the heavy handed religious ideologies. Telling someone they are powerless without a higher power is more damaging than helpful and should have no place in helping addiction.

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    • For me, admitting I was powerless allowed me to seek help. Nothing else worked for me. To each their own.

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    • It’s incredibly religious. And for any atheist, it’s like nails on a chalk board to listen to, therefore going to AA is already set up for failure. Please don’t mislead people.

      Seeking treatment is a very personal thing, so trying to push something they’ve already said they don’t want.. is kind of the whole reason why atheists become atheists.

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    • Push something? Hardly. I’m stating a fact that AA is not “religious”. If it were I wouldn’t be a part of it either! Be atheist all you want, there’s millions worldwide who have found sobriety in AA so I doubt that is “set up for failure”. Plz don’t assume the poster is “atheist” either. That wasn’t stated.

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    • It’s an educated deduction. The one thing we do know is that (s)he doesn’t want AA, and that either makes you careless for your post or an illiterate moron who doesn’t understand English.

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    • Brittney Castle Stay classy! Lmao.

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    • Name calling, if that’s how atheists act, I’m glad I’m not you. Lol. Bye

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    • Travis Hugh Travis Hugh says:

      Wtf are you talking about?!? 8/12 steps are directly related to “God”. You can take whatever they say however the hell you want, doesn’t change what they actually mean. “Find God” to me means do a shot of whiskey. Must be why I failed the program.

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    • Well actually, you get to find whoever or whatever you want….many ppl call it God. Many ppl don’t. There are some ppl who use their group as a Higher Power….the whole point is to find a “power” greater than yourself, that can give you power to stop drinking. Being more open minded and non judgmental helps.

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    • And those people are all called “theist’s” which is why they can stand the content. If you are an atheist, a true atheist, 10 minutes in AA will make you go down to the liquor store up the road to ease the pain of rolling your eyes.

      And relying on ANYONE ELSE other than yourself makes you powerless to control your own destiny. Again, why secular versions are proven to work better.

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    • Travis Hugh Travis Hugh says:

      My point isn’t what “many people” call it, it’s what AA calls it.

      https://www.recovery.org/topics/alcoholics-anonymous-12-step/

      Once again, sure you can twist their words to fit your own agenda but don’t act like it isn’t religious.

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    • Yes, millions of theist’s. What part of they don’t want AA do you not understand?

      This has nothing to do with opinion.

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    • I’m not trying to make anyone want AA….trying to clear up a common ignorant misunderstanding is all my point is! I mean it could save someone’s life!

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    • Travis Hugh if you decided to come to meetings and sit and open your ears…..you might get it. But it seems you are too close minded for that. So yes maybe that’s why it didn’t work for you. Good luck on your journey!

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    • A theist who lies about the religious content of AA. And there we have it folks!

      You’re toting that it could save a life, you outright lying about the content can endanger a life. Why can you theists not grasp the fact that some people don’t want to listen to that, especially when they are at the lowest point that they can get???!

      Look at how superior you come across on here, why would anyone who doesn’t believe in your fairy tales want to be around that mentality? Do you think that by calling well-informed people closed minded, that you somehow sound better? I really hope how incredibly silly you look calling any atheist closed minded. It’s actually quite amusing that every one of you use it as a fall-back line of defence.

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    • A theist who lies about the religious content of AA. And there we have it folks!

      You’re toting that it could save a life, you outright lying about the content can endanger a life. Why can you theists not grasp the fact that some people don’t want to listen to that, especially when they are at the lowest point that they can get???!

      Look at how superior you come across on here, why would anyone who doesn’t believe in your fairy tales want to be around that mentality? Do you think that by calling well-informed people closed minded, that you somehow sound better? I really hope you know how incredibly silly you look calling any atheist closed minded. It’s actually quite amusing that every one of you use it as a fall-back line of defence.

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  15. Jeff Ross Jeff Ross says:

    Can you show evidence that it’s proven to work for every single individual? He states he doesn’t want to go to AA so don’t be closed minded and tell him to try it anyways. Isn’t that in the fellowship to not be closed minded? He can get clean if he doesn’t want to go to a meeting.
    Granted they helped me…for a time… But eventually all the praying and talk of a ‘God’ turned me off completely. People say it’s not religious, it’s spiritual. My ass sorry to say…have you taken a look at the 12 steps? Just because they say it isn’t religious doesn’t change the fact that it really is. Hell I might even be able to call AA or NA or whatever it’s own religion! Bam mind blown…

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  16. Jeff Ross Jeff Ross says:

    Can you show evidence that it’s proven to work for every single individual? He states he doesn’t want to go to AA so don’t be closed minded and tell him to try it anyways. Isn’t that in the fellowship to not be closed minded? He can get clean if he doesn’t want to go to a meeting.
    Granted they helped me…for a time… But eventually all the praying and talk of a ‘God’ turned me off completely. People say it’s not religious, it’s spiritual. My ass sorry to say…have you taken a look at the 12 steps? Just because they say it isn’t religious doesn’t change the fact that it really is. Hell I might even be able to call AA or NA or whatever it’s own religion! Bam mind blown…

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  17. I wish the best for you!

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  18. Kevin Barry Kevin Barry says:

    It sounds like you’ve accomplished the biggest step. The road ahead will be tough but you’re already on the right path. Good luck.

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  19. Jeff Ross Jeff Ross says:

    The one thing that I learned that is continuing to help me is positive self talk. Yes I may have learned some of that in NA but the majority of the reason I’m clean is because I put in the work to change a thinking pattern. The groups at aadac helped me more than NA but hey, maybe religion is for you o.O the fellowships might as well be called their own religion.
    Nothing with any of the fellowships, like I said they helped me. Only until I couldn’t stand the ‘religion feel’ that I got from every meeting… “Things will get better if you pray” “pray and things will work out” ya no thanks, as someone who’s struggled with religions and what they cause people to do I stay clear away from the fellowships :/
    But don’t knock it will you try it a few times, I’m saying all this from personal experience. I gave it a try and it was NOT for me to keep going to. They helped when I was struggling yes, but now my eyes have been opened to getting help without all that ‘God’ bullshit..

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  20. Please detox with medical help. I have known people to almost die and have brain damage if you do it on your own.

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  21. This was very eye-opening in regards to medications that help with alcoholism:
    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/04/the-irrationality-of-alcoholics-anonymous/386255/?utm_source=atlfb

    Good luck, OP! We’re all rooting for you!!

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  22. Jeff Ross Jeff Ross says:

    Mad respect to you though, the OP. The one thing that’s helped me the most in my own recovery is the fact that I stopped hiding my using from my loved ones..I was using every week, hiding it and lying 24/7 and it was killing me so much to hear how proud they were of me and how good I’m doing…it got to the point where I just couldn’t lie to them anymore and I didn’t want to hide..I wanted to show my true colors to the world and deal with whatever mess I had created for myself. When I opened up and got honest with them, and myself, I think that’s where the miracle happened because I no longer felt like isolating from my loved ones, I found out despite what I’d been doing to myself and them that if you own your fuck ups it makes it a bit easier to stay clean. After I did that I was able to start working on my mental health and things I’ve known for years start coming up in my mind. The MOST BENEFICIAL is the positive self talk I practice daily. Just kind of happened for me because I guess I hit my rock bottom and I was sick of what the drugs were doing to me, and my family. Just keep putting one foot infront of the other and remember that you are NOT alone, AA might not be for you but trust me when I say there are many other resources out there that work just as good or better. It all depends on the person, what you’re going through, and how your learning style is.

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  23. Jill Morin Jill Morin says:

    I have been to Al Alon (a branch of AA for people affected by alcoholism).

    Yes, there is mention of god or higher power, but it’s not associated with any denomination or sect.

    I am also not religious, and was concerned about this.

    They tell you to just think of god about your higher power, whether it be knowledge or just some sort of spirituality.

    It’s a great program.

    You 100% don’t need to be religious to go.

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  24. Smart recovery does online meetings

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  25. Trading an addiction for an other… accepted and actually encouraged by society… that is not a cure

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  26. Shelley Peck Shelley Peck says:

    Jeff Ross he’s an addict … should we recommend hand holding in the park? There are very few programs … only a could funded

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  27. Shelley Peck Shelley Peck says:

    Jeff Ross he’s an addict … should we recommend hand holding in the park? There are very few programs … only a could funded

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  28. Wow Shelley, “you are no where near ready to quit anything”. I dont think anyone is encouraging hand holding, but everyone should be encouraging positive and motivational discussion. Your comments degrade the amount of courage it takes to take the few steps forward, out of alcoholism, that these people are making (the people being the OP and Jeff, as he has gone to AA and found it didnt work for him after a while). Get off your high horse and be a little more constructive in the discussion. PS, pushing people to do things they dont think will help them may push them away from looking for help at all. So I wouldnt push this OP to go somewhere that doesnt fit his/her beliefs just because it seems to be the most obvious option.

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  29. Shelley Peck Shelley Peck says:

    Samantha Rose well there is always private they start at 35,000$

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  30. Sharon Swan Sharon Swan says:

    right there you are targeting AA as being religious .. that is a negative thought you have … just because they talk about a higher power .. it can be whatever you want it to be .. the ones that use God as their higher power .. all the power to them .. .but everyone is different .. so don’t stop from going to an AA meeting just because of that little thing … GO AND GIVE THEM A TRY

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  31. Shawna Perez Shawna Perez says:

    You are only finding excuses not to go. Go to AA. You have spent too much time in the hands of the devil. Surrender to the Lord and watch your life change for the better 🙂

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    • Amen! I found my soul when I left the spirits!

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    • If you truly believe in your almighty God, your God is what did this to him in the first place then.. so why trust that he will be there for this person to get the help that they medically need?

      Doctors and therapists have much better track records than any of the various sky daddies.

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    • Go thump a bible, who gave the world wine?? The churches, idiot

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    • Ange Freer Ange Freer says:

      I don’t think you’re qualified to make such an assertion, Shawna Perez. I quit drinking 4 years ago this coming June 24. I didn’t go to AA. And I was successful in cutting the alcohol out of my life entirely. Preaching about the Lord vs Devil isn’t helping this person any. Especially after they clearly stated they were against AA because of the religious aspect. You either don’t listen when other speak, or you’re some self righteous, holier than thou who is convinced they know it all. Whatever it is, you’re not helping!

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    • Shawna Perez Shawna Perez says:

      Ange Freer, wow. Sounds like the demons that fueled your addiction are still fueling the anger that turned you towards alcohol as an outlet in the first place. BTW, I am absolutely qualified to make my “assertion” and I can see that you are still struggling quite a bit. I applaud you for being able to stop drinking but now the real work begins – getting to the core as to why you chose to become an alcoholic. That is a lifelong journey of healing and a person has to totally surrender to what comes their way in order to do that. Good luck to you.

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    • Ummmm if they’re teaching coping strategies and using the bible to do so they have every right to feel that that group isn’t for them… shit that would make me wanna drink

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    • Kenny Joe Kenny Joe says:

      Oh yes, you’re “lord” is doing wonderful things such as watching starving children die, making sure peoples favourite sports teams win and the crescendo for some bizarre reason watching me masturbate.
      Don’t you have some people to go threaten for oppressing your “religious freedom”?

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    • Ange Freer Ange Freer says:

      Shawna Perez, once again, you’re in no position to make such assertions. To assume that demons are fuelling a non existent anger, shows you really have no clue on what you speak of. I wasn’t angry when I took up drinking in my late teens, and I am far from angry now. My drinking was a result of peer pressure, because I wanted to “fit in” and not some deep seeded emotional trauma. Nice try though! And another thing that you got completely wrong in your know it all holier than thou assertion is … If I were “struggling” with sobriety, I’d have started drinking again. Of that I promise you. Yet, here I am, approaching 4 years clean and sober WITHOUT so much as a desire to pick up the habit again. You really have no clue.

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  32. The rate of success of AA is roughly 5%, virtually equal to quitting on your own.

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  33. Andrea Kat Andrea Kat says:

    This is a list of the addictions resources in the city. The AHS programs are not religious. Another option if you’re looking for meetings is SMART recovery. Can google that and see if it appeals to you. https://edmonton.cmha.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/2017-11_211ResourceList_PeopleWithAddictions.pdf

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  34. Shawn Blair Shawn Blair says:

    Follow the 12 steps.

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  35. This is Canada. There’s lots of secular help out there. Go do an intake at the NA location downtown. I found the one on one sessions very helpful

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  36. Do they have this in Canada? I knew people in the US that went with Rational Recovery. https://rational.org/index.php?id=1 You don’t have to believe in a higher power for it.

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  37. Only person that can make you quit is you…just stop drinking

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  38. AA is not a religious group. Higher power just means a focus on usinsing spiritualism or getting in touch with spiritualism. If your AA group is pushing religion find another group as that IS NOT part of AA. There are a lot of AA groups in the city and you should be able to find one more to your needs. 124st and I think 108 ave has groups fo AA and NA.

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  39. AA isn’t for everyone. First time I went was back in 2001. And it wasn’t for me but for the few times I went I did pick up a few things. And it was a couple of those things that helped me get sober in 2008. I too found it to religious. I remember the time before I got sober , homeless and not much of a life. And I remember having my last beer. I was at WEM picking cig butts ( not proud ) went into the mall. As I was walking I looked down and found $40 lying on the floor. Bought a pack of smokes and went to bourbon street. Ordered a beer drank about half of it. And then it hit me. I just found $40 in the busiest malls in the city why am I wasting it and my life for alcohol. I got up and left that half a beer and never looked back. On my 10th year of being sober . PM me if you want to talk.

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  40. I just wanted to say bravo for recognizing the need for help and asking for it….and good luck!

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  41. Ange Freer Ange Freer says:

    Hey, OP … I can’t point you in the direction of any groups, but I can share with you my personal experience with this.

    I began as a binge drinker in my late teens. It progressed over time and got out of control -as any addiction does. On June 24, 2014 (my dogs 2nd birthday), I made the decisions I quit drinking. After 2 decades of allowing the drug to consume my every thought, and becoming cognizant I was spiralling out of control (despite being a functioning alcoholic) I quit. Cold turkey. I won’t blow smoke up your ass and tell you it was easy. Cause it wasn’t. It was probably the second most difficult thing I have done. Anyways, I found success. But not before I accepted that in order to maintain my sobriety, I had to cut out every friend I had partied with over the years, as well as those who still drank. To this day, I still keep my distance from friends who drink. I don’t go to parties when the invite is extended, not because I am scared I will relapse, I’m strong enough now to not let that happen. I refrain from attending environments where people are drinking because my tolerance for drunks has reached an all time low. Basically, what I’m trying to say is … you need to eliminate all negative influences and focus on YOU! That’s how you will find success. I’m living proof. Take it day by day. It will get easier. I promise! I don’t usually do this, but if you need someone to talk to who’s “been there” shoot me a message. Best of luck to you!

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  42. Just don’t go to the liquor store ! Good luck you can do it !!

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  43. Much love and light to the poster… I hope you find the support you need to help you heal. It’s a long road, but the destination is worth the journey.

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  44. Kenny Joe Kenny Joe says:

    Adaac, on 107th street.
    Detox and they can point you to some secular groups.

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  45. Brian Murray Brian Murray says:

    To answer your question, there are Agnostic A.A. meetings that are not that hard to find. A.A. is not a religious organization but an organization that has religious people in it. Step 3 – the God of your understanding, a lot of people say their higher power is the fellowship of A.A. I hope this helps.

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  46. Alexis Musik Alexis Musik says:

    I’m so proud of you. There’s binge alcoholics, there’s drinking at 6pm everyday alcoholics and there’s alcoholics that are never sober. Go to your dr first. AA isn’t really that religious they say a prayer at the beginning of the meeting and it’s interesting hearing others talk and you’ll realize you’re not alone! Good luck my friend ❣️

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