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Just wonder if it’s legal for speed camera car to stay on the bridges

Hey, Edmonton. Is it legal to keep speed camera vehicles on the bridges when it against the Alberta Driver’s Guide?

See p.52: “Do not park here:…on a bridge or underpass or the approaches to a bridge or underpass…” I have more pics as have a dash camera registering those vehicles on bridges. This is was my concern today and hmm …

A legal script how to deal with those cars:

1. You see the car on the bridge

2. You know it’s out of rules to stay on the bridge for a long time unless the drivers needs help

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3. So, you can stop and offer to the driver on the bridge to help to start his/her car and move it to more safe area

4. …or call to police about those cars that break rules.

https://www.transportation.alberta.ca/content/docType45/Production/DriversGuidefinal2014.pdf

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  1. Win Chan Win Chan says:

    Ya see them a lot on yellowhead overpasses lately and on Henday. You’re just coming along the bend on the overpass or cruising under one and then WHAM person ahead of you slams brakes. Lots more officers everywhere lately too. Think the summer is coming so it’s government revenue time.

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  2. Call them into police for pointing a gun at traffic. See how fast shit flys then.

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  3. They’re technically sheriffs so it doesn’t apply to them.

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    • They aren’t sheriffs. Peace officers like the photo radar Personel go through a watered down policing course at the Alberta justice college. Sheriffs and Alberta correctional officers go through a full training policing style course including EVOC courses.

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    • Peace Officers go through a longer course that is not watered down in comparison. Traffic sheriff’s get the gun course and EVOC….only real difference. Peace Officers take the EVOC course too but it’s taken outside of the college. And sheriff is hardly Police style as police get minimum 6 months….traffic sheriff are like 9 weeks max. Court sheriff way shorter them that. PO 6 weeks as they don’t get the gun and EVOC and more traffic training…..even though they do the same job and more.

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  4. Money >Safety/law.

    Do as I say… not as I do.

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  5. Steve Friske Steve Friske says:

    They are sworn in peace officers so such offences are void if they break them to pursue their duty which is to road tax drivers

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  6. Steve Friske Steve Friske says:

    The biggest thing that gets them in trouble is when they come out of the vehicle without their reflective/bright vests.

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  7. Brian Howard Brian Howard says:

    If someone is doing 160 170 kms they should get a ticket , but if I’m 6kms over that’s a bit much to send me a ticket in the mail .

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    • I got one for 5km over…..going down a hill.
      I was so pissed

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    • they are situated in locations where the speed reduces….because the can make more mnoney there!

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    • Rick O Rick O'Shay says:

      And they say “don’t speed and you won’t get a ticket”. 5 over is not speeding imo….

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    • Tianna Hlady Tianna Hlady says:

      And isn’t your speedometer allowed to be off by like 5-10% before it’s illegal? If it is wouldnt that would mean 5-10 ish would be an acceptable amount to “speed”?

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    • Rick O Rick O'Shay says:

      Anything from going from old to brand new tires or even driving different cars, like a guy like me does all the time can affect it too

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    • They don’t get you unless your 15 km over on the Henday.

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    • You’re speedometer is not “allowed” to be out 5 to 10 km. It’s your responsibility to keep ur vehicle in working order. However……if u get a ticket and then can prove to the court ur speedo was out….they MAY take that into consideration as u saw there was a issue and fixed it.

      Also….radars/lasers, they are allowed by manufacturers specification to be out by 2 km only otherwise they get sent back to get calibration. So that’s generally why there is that 10 km allowance or 5km if it’s a school zone.

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    • Jeff Dutton Jeff Dutton says:

      Tina Tianna HladyHeady, 5-10km is only 5-10% at 100…. at 60km an hr it’s 3 km. Brian Howard, the speed limit is the maximum speed you can travel, 1 km over the speed limit is Speeding.

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    • Unfortunately its always the average joe that gets screwed over by doing 6kms over because of the cash cow.

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  8. I was always told the Anthony Henday is a provincial highway and that Edmonton has no jurisdiction to enforce speed on it. I’m guessing I’ve been told BS?

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  9. Candice Ball Candice Ball says:

    Interesting question

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  10. While I agree that photo radar is a pile of horse shit, the operators are sworn peace officers and considered part of the government.
    So like any other maintenance or law enforcement personal, they can pretty much park where they wish.

    Sucks yes, but until the people shake up city hall during an election cycle, this will continue.

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  11. Daniel Viau Daniel Viau says:

    Just call the police every time you see a truck shooting off of an overpass. Say there’s a car that looks stuck and it needs to be checked out. If everyone does that people will start re thinking

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  12. Koren Conway Koren Conway says:

    Following speed limits helps me reduce hassles from photo radar and also helps me save money in the long run. #keepingitsimple

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  13. so tired of drivers complaining about speed traps. If you dont speed > no tickets. If you have a problem with the speed limit > talk to your city counsellor.

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    • it’s where they are situated that is the problem!

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    • Gordon E Langer Agreed, I had del this comment but it showed. Safety first, mtc vehicles are meant to be seen and traffic is warned appropriately. Ghost cars need to be parked someplace that is not a danger to other drivers.

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    • I like how there is always a truck on 66th st where is goes from 60 to 50 a few blocks north of where a school is located but never actually have one near the school. “Safety”

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    • Rick Gora Rick Gora says:

      He didnt ask if hes allowed to speed past it. He asked if its illegal what they do. And your answear did absolutely fuck all to answer it.

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    • I complain about speed traps because I think it’s stupid that the government thinks they can just take take take and take from everyone! By the way, I’ve never had a speeding ticket so no it’s not just people who speed that have a problem.

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  14. No its not legal. They do it anyway

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  15. So very very true? Poise this question to CTV OR GLOBAL!!!!

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  16. There is one I see frequently, but they have cones around them.

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  17. Going to end up causing a major accident and at who’s fault.

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  18. Don’t speed = no ticket = save money. Complain all you want. SPEEDING IS DANGEROUS AND BREAKS THE LAW.

    Those of you that b**ch about radar will be the ones that b**ch when in an accident due to speeding

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    • That being said Vivian I don’t speed I drive a company truck basically always set on cruise on the limit and I’ve gotten to photo radar tickets in the last year one for 8 over one for 9 over lol personally I don’t trust those guys..

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    • Nikki Riggs Nikki Riggs says:

      The radar causes issued for ppl that don’t speed today. For example today I was on the henday, and ppl saw photo and while everyone was doing the limit (100) as soon as they noticed the truck they slam on the breaks and drop down to 60. That’s just as bad a hazard and can cause accidents

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    • Nikki those people are idiots

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    • I tap the brakes every time I see a truck aswell even if I’m doing 5-10 under the limit out of habit it’s a tough one to break when your getting stupid tickets for supposedly going 8-9 over the limit.

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    • Well, if you are doing the correct speed, why brake??

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    • Speeding isnt all that dangerous but however, if they want to enforce it should be done by human entity so they can be held accountable when they fuck up, becausw these computers do mess up alot. Also where is this money going? Its pretty shady business this photo radar

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    • Rick Gora Rick Gora says:

      He didnt ask if hes allowed to speed past it. He asked if its illegal what they do. And your answear did absolutely fuck all to answer it.

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    • Leah Hickman Leah Hickman says:

      Nikki Riggs I have never seen that happen even once.

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    • Tianna Hlady Tianna Hlady says:

      Then you must not pay very close attention. I have seen people braking for people pulled over. Not even cops, just people stopped. And I’ve only lived in Edmonton a year. As well I never once got a ticket before I moved here.

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    • Well Tianna Hlady, I pay very careful attention, considering I have driven since long before you walked this earth. Yes, people brake for people who have been pulled over – a safety issue. But people that brake when all they see is a radar officer, have a fear of being caught speeding.

      Out of curiosity, how many km were you above the speed limit ?

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    • Tianna Hlady Tianna Hlady says:

      Well you’ve got an awfully condescending air about you. And braking three lanes over from someone pulling over is not a safety issue. One lane is expected two lanes max, if someone is going to switch lanes to get out of the car right lane. And I was 5km over because I have the wrong size tires on my vehicle and it affects me speedo so I’m always driving slower than I should be, although apparently that day I wasn’t going slow enough.

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    • Well dear. You need to have the right size tires. Yes I am condescending in regards to your comments. 5 km over is speeding. Actually, when pass an emergency vehicle with lights on you are drop your speed to 60 mph and pull into the next lane if it safe to do so. If you drive defensively, you will see the vehicle long before you are on it, giving you time to slow down.

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    • Darryl Exell Darryl Exell says:

      ^ nope you only drop to 60 one lane over. Its not illegal to do the limit if theyre 2 lanes over

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    • Speeding isn’t dangerous.

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    • Also we’ve been kmph for just a couple of years lmfao.

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    • Yep Darryl Exell you ARE right! WOW!! Pulling into the next lane at the posted speed, while NOT in the Highway Act is safer for those on the side of the road.

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    • Rob Saramaga Rob Saramaga says:

      I don’t understand people who think they are so high and mighty. The post said nothing about Speeding is good or bad.

      They are saying that the vehicle is there parked illegally. If you parked your car there and sat there you would be ticketed. You are a danger to other drivers there.

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    • Jeff Suga Jeff Suga says:

      Your an idiot Viviane. Just shut up… don’t even think. Just don’t speak… at all…

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    • Ian McMillan Ian McMillan says:

      Viviane Daniels race me

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  19. If everything person that got a speeding ticket went to court to fight it then the courts would have no choice but to throw all the tickets out

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  20. or… jsut dont speed?

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  21. they’re exempt…..because they are a CASH COW!…LMAO!

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  22. Mandy Morgan Mandy Morgan says:

    I drove by one on an overpass the other day and it had pylons all around it and leading up to it… I guess that makes it “safe”! Lol

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  23. In the words of a peace officer photo radar guy I talked to were that they are the law and can do whatever they would like…

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  24. Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

    If you didn’t notice everyspot the photo radar cars sit on a bridge there is a pull out there specifically for them. Every overpass on the Henday they park on was DESIGNED for them!

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    • Did you work on the engineering of the overpasses on the henday? I really really doubt that they were designed to have photo radar on them!

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Mitch it is obvious. Look at every spot a truck/car sits on the overpass. There is a an obvious pullout exactly where they need to sit to monitor the road going underneath.

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    • THERE IS NO PULLOVER FOR THEM. And on 97 street at Whitemud they actually stick out into the lane so the two lanes over the bridge are forced into one. There are no spots made for photoradar on the bridges. You have been given mis-information.

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Look at ALL the bridges over the HENDAY where they have photo radar trucks. Not the ones in the city. The HENDAY! When they built the bridges they added wide spots where they park the photo radar trucks. Isn’t rocket science to see it. Just have to pay attention. I never said SHIT about the whitemud did I? I said the HENDAY! read before you comment.

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Anthony Henday southbound at the Yellowhead. Photo radar location.

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Anthony Henday northbound at the Yellowhead photo radar location.

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Winterburn road over eastbound Yellowhead just inside the 100kph zone. Photo radar location.

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Notice how all 3 locations have extra wide shoulder exactly where they park to do photo radar enforcement. Give me a minute and I will pull more off Google maps.

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    • Drive over that bridge when they are parked there. It’s still scary as hell passing them. By the way your quote is “If you didn’t notice everyspot the photo radar cars sit on a bridge there is a pull out there specifically for them.”

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Referring to the Henday. Here is Anthony Henday and Manning drive……AS THEY ARE BUILDING IT! NOTICE THE HASH MARKS ALREADY IN PLACE EXACTLY LIKE THE OTHERS I POSTED. The HENDAY wasn’t even open at this location yet here is the proof they designed it for such purposes as this is now a prime location for the photo radar trucks!

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Yellowhead east side as they are building it. Notice the hashmarks already in place as they build the road?

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    • Travis Purdy Travis Purdy says:

      Gregory Kiejko nice way to take a sentence out of context also. The entire paragraph puts it into context referring to the henday.

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    • This is where I have to slow down because they try to get me every second morning. AH at QE2 NB. Scary when they park up there.

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    • If I were a betting man I would put alot of money on the fact that they weren’t engineered to have photo radar there but that they are wide enough to add another lane when the city grows and there is that much more traffic

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  25. A high number of police reports and people stopping to see if they need help will be a great deterent

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  26. Jenna Bain Jenna Bain says:

    And just ignore they get away breaking the law. Double standard

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    • They are not breaking the law Jenna! Just cause u think they are doesn’t mea they actually are. Part of the law is written to exclude them while on duty….just like ambulance and fire trucks!

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    • Jeff Suga Jeff Suga says:

      Ok so the last time I was in traffic court. I was told specifically that “nobody is above the law” no exceptions….
      It’s Bullshit that pigs can get away with what they do. I have seen allot of bullshit in my life. I find our justice system is one of the biggest scams out there.. so corrupt it isn’t funny….

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  27. This exact question was asked to EPS in one of their traffic question/answer sessions on FB. This was their response:

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    • Rick O Rick O'Shay says:

      Like it or not this is the definitive answer to this question. Thanks Amber. Nice to see someone doing research and asking questions while getting answers from the right people. Too many online layers here that can’t represent me in court

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    • No problem! I hate photo radar as much as the next person, but figured I’d provide the answer directly from the ones who enforce the laws.

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    • Rick O Rick O'Shay says:

      Oh i agree no one likes a ticket, but in the end the law is the law.

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  28. Moe Stachio Moe Stachio says:

    Probably photo radar lol

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  29. Kole Dupe Kole Dupe says:

    Yeah it’s allowed but taking a picture while driving isn’t

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  30. Jessy Turner Jessy Turner says:

    Contact your city counselor

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  31. Hanna Garvey Hanna Garvey says:

    And when that guy gets a speeding ticket on his record, you know he’s gonna get talked to about his representation of the EPS, when perhaps otherwise his poor choices would go unnoticed, right?

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  32. Actually cops do get tickets and have to explain why

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  33. winterburn over pass they shoot your speed in the 110 ,then after u drive by they shoot your plate in the 100 puts u 10 over

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  34. No they don’t. They are exempt in their line of duty.

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  35. Photo radar belongs in school zones and park areas that’s it ! FTP ACAB

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  36. Someone should sacrifice their car and pile into the back of a photo radar truck on an overpass. Then they’ll consider moving them

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  37. I particularly love when I pull up beside a cop car and they are texting and driving. I always wanna snap a pic but then I would end up with a ticket for distracted driving.

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  38. Kip Chaput Kip Chaput says:

    They sit in there white trucks with Amber flashers on bye construction zones too. Beware!!!!!!

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  39. Brett Vergo Brett Vergo says:

    It’s all a making money not making the roads safer

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  40. Jarred Nagle Jarred Nagle says:

    Eugene Chernets

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