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Pay or Stay Warrants

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Today (April 20th 2016) as I was heading to my aunt’s house in Sherwood Park to help her move some things to her new house in Delton when I was pulled over. The officer, a polite Peace Officer, had ran my plate and it came back as a pay or stay warrant for my arrest.

Now, before I continue, we both know all outstanding tickets are attached to my truck’s registration, once a year I deal with any, if any, traffic tickets, some years in a massive amount of photo radar, some years my lead foot seems to smarten up and I pay my $85 and continue on with my life. The city gets its owed money, I get to keep my ride. This system works well because if I don’t pay I lose my truck, that doesn’t hurt anyone but myself.

However, with pay or stay, you have forced me to last minute come up with money or do the jail time. So now if I had taken the jail time, because like most albertan’s I’m unemployed right now meaning 3 days in jail wouldn’t have really bothered me, it now falls on the tax payers to provide my meals, laundry services and all the other things that go along with holding me in jail. And I would have got to keep my $575, without any real cost to myself other than an uncomfortable sleep.

So I was pulled over at 1:45 pm, as the cop is waiting to hear the details of my warrant time passes, it’s 2:35 pm when the matter is finally resolved.

STORY CONTINUES BELOW

How much is this officers wage per hour? What other emergency calls was he ignoring for this, a simple traffic fine, which was not reporting an accident, and yes stupid on my part but I took responsibility for, and because I went to court Nov 4 2015, I was under the assumption it would be attached to my registration or license renewal, as most traffic related things are for next year. The warrant was issued Feb 9th 2016. My registration date is Oct. 31 2016.

I’m not even upset for having to pay it, I’m upset that I could have used other people’s tax dollars pay my fines for me while I ate free food. And I’m sure I’m not the only that realizes this. Was my measly $575 worth so much to the city that I didn’t even have to risk losing anything

Next time I’ll take the jail time and you can enjoy paying for my tickets that you had no responsibility in racking up, I’ll keep my $575 in my bank account, won’t have to feed myself for a few days, sounds like a win-win for me.

Fines should be attached to registration and licensing renewal’s first until it has to go to collections then enforce pay or stay. Well that’s what I think.

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  1. Susan Boyle Susan Boyle says:

    Absoulute bullshit!!!

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  2. There must be more to this story as I know plenty of people that wait till registration time to pay their fines and some times they are well over the $575 you had to pay. They don’t issue warrants for no reason.

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  3. I was once served a warrant for an unpaid traffic ticket, at most it was maybe 200 for turning right at a red light (where you are not allowed to turn right on the red). I got a phone call while at home, I was asked Is this Danielle? I reply yes, they inform me that it is the EPS and ask where I am at the moment. I say well, I’m at home. The officer informs me I have a warrant for my arrest and they are coming to my home directly. I’m freaking out like wtf! Here I was, completing my degree and entering medical school, a law abiding citizen and active volunteer… Living in a rather unsavoury part of town. They asked me to sit in the cruiser as they pulled up my history (clean, with the exception of a note for a violent crime committed against me as a teenager). They made me feel like a damn criminal, and to top it off what business is it of theirs to know my past history as a victim?? Really, there were stabbings, prostitution, gangs and drugs in that particular. A waste of resources and dollars? I’m going to say yes. Just ridiculous.

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    • Ma Simm Ma Simm says:

      So why didn’t you pay your ticket? I paid mine online and on time so I wouldn’t suffer the embarassment of a warrant. My driving record is also clean. But if I don’t pay my ticket, I can, at some point expect a visit from the cops.

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    • Good for you. You get a gold star.

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    • Ma Simm Agreed! The rules are there, we don’t get to pick and choose ones we like, the ones we think police should enforce etc. If you ask the guy driving drunk he will say the same thing you said ” I wasn’t hurting anybody so why aren’t the police more concerned about…,., all the more serious crimes being committed. Danielle! Pay your fines, or accept the consequences!

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  4. Some fines are and some fines aren’t attached to registration. I completely agree that the majority of tickets should be attached to your registration.

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  5. If you went to court regarding the matter, you’d have been given a date to pay the fine. Not really the same as leaving the photo radar ticket until registration time. The system is flawed in so many ways …but so is this story.

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  6. Mike Rees Mike Rees says:

    Go ahead and do the time next time. Wait til you find out how much it costs for towing and impound for three days. You made the right decision.

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  7. The same thing will.happen if you forget to register your dogs

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    • Wide Glide Wide Glide says:

      Noooooooo…!!!… You mean they will impound my truck……..if I don’t pay my dog licence….!!!!!…..this place is…..CRAZY ….!!!!….

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    • You get a fine, not jail time. If you don’t pay your fine they add it to your property taxes.

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    • Actually, last year my son received a ticket because he forgot to register his dog. I paid the fine while he was at work… A few months later I had a sherif at my door with a warrant to arrest my son due to the unpaid fine. There was a glitch in the system and it deleted my sons payment, hence the warrant issued. As soon as I showed them copies of the receipt they cancelled the warrant but in the meantime it was absolutely ridiculous!!!!

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    • Christine Harward Dawson that happened to a lot of people last year due to the person that imputs the info. She messed up and my husband went through the same thing

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  8. Ma Simm Ma Simm says:

    I got a ticket in the mail for coming to a rolling stop turning right on a red light. On the document was a link where I could watch yhe video as well as a date I was to pay it by. It could be paid online, so I did that right away.

    In the video, my brake lights were on, my head is also clearly turned, looking for oncoming traffic. But also clearly in the video is that I did not come to a complete stop. I could gripe and groan too, but its my fault. I paid it right away, kept the receipt and got on with my life.
    Why are you not paying your tickets when they’re due instead of waiting for an arrest? Some people are their own worst enemies. Geezzz.

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  9. You make a valid point. Other provinces don’t waste officers time with traffic violations. The fines are tied to registration and they give you time to pay, if not, you pay them off, or you can’t register your car. With all the crime the city is experiencing and stuff like human trafficking and other major crimes escalating in our city, and the wages police are paid to keep us safe are incongruent. That someone can be arrested for unpaid parking tickets, snow removal (e.g. 82 yr old woman arrested), etc. is absoutely a waste of taxpayers money. Police are for keeping order, crimes etc. Hell, they don’t even show up for home break-ins.

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    • You are assuming it was a minor traffic violation, which you have no proof of. You state “police are for keeping order”, traffic morons are part of that. But to make a bold statement about police wages and tax payer dollars is ignorance on your part. The op already wasted dollars on a court appearance, at such time a date to pay the fine would have been issued. The op made a decision to not pay it until it was convenient.

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    • She indicated that.

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  10. did you know it was a “pay of stay fine” once issued the fine?

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  11. DONT ASSUME ! THE FINE WOULD BE ATTACHED TO YOUR REGISTRATION !! TWIT

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  12. Leigh Oswin Leigh Oswin says:

    Am I supposed to be sympathetic because you choose to make your own rules there snowflake? You break laws and expect support for your rant telling us how you are going to “make the taxpayer pay more next time” to collect your fines? Grow up.

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  13. Wally Smith Wally Smith says:

    It’s just another form of taxation

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  14. Doug Saunders says:

    This guy pisses me off. If your unemployed, don’t speed. If you speed, pay your tickets. We don’t care if it’s more convenient for you to pay them once a year.

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  15. It already is, you can’t renew your registration until you pay all your tickets.

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  16. Angele Hisko Angele Hisko says:

    There’s the tow charge, impound, daily storage… It still would have cost you about the same amount, AND you would have a criminal record. THAT’S the difference.

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  17. Some cops just deal with traffic. Just because you think it’s his waste of a day, doesn’t make it true.

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  18. Or maybe not speed, so you won’t have to do either.

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  19. I’m upset that people don’t follow the rules of society (or make up their own) and I’m forced to fork out my hard earned tax money so that someone can justify their actions. Pretty simple, pay your bills when you’re supposed to or better yet, just follow the rules and we all get to keep our money in our pockets.

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  20. I think the point a lot of people are trying to make here, is that it’s ridiculous how focused cops have become at cash grab traffic violations, when there is so much real non- victimless crime going on. It is stupid that you have tonnes of cruisers out to stop traffic or people smoking a joint but murders go unsolved everywhere, violent crime is on the rise, people are dissappearing, thievery is jumping to an all time high. Like focus on those for crying out loud, that’s your original job, speeders are by far the lesser of two evils. To waste taxpayer dollars because someone owes 500 dollars is ok? they wasted that getting him so now the taxpayers are the victim and the people who issued that warrant should be arrested. A crime needs a victim or where’s the crime?

    I also find it funny people put their head in the sand and just say well don’t break laws and pay your fines, if a rule is unjust it should be broken, if society jumped off a bridge and said it was right would you? Stand up for your damn self it’s the foundation of this country for crying out loud.

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    • Leigh Oswin Leigh Oswin says:

      Yes. We should all determine which rules we think are unjust and break them. I think it is unjust that I can’t enter your house and help myself to your things. Should I just do it anyway? Keep in mind that you are all for breaking unjust rules so you’ll be okay with it. Right?

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    • Aleida Yackimec Agreed!’n

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    • The crime is when the shitty driver that thinks they get to decide which laws to follow runs a red and smashes into an innocent person. Or loses control of their vehicle and kills someone. I’ve been hit by someone that thought the law didn’t apply to them.

      Follow the fucking law and don’t be a douchebag. It’s simple. I never have to worry about this type of stuff, because I drive like a decent human being, not a selfish asshole.

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  21. How do you still have a license if paying multiple fines each year is an actual thing for you? Maaaaybe don’t be such a shitty, douchebag driver, and this wouldn’t be a problem for you.

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  22. No crime is victimless!! If you are not willing to follow the rules about one thing, fines, who is to say you will follow the rules for something else. Rules are there for a reason, big or small. There would be no cash grab as you call it, or waste of taxpayers’ $$$ if these relatively “simple” and “minor” rules were followed!! Especially speeding tickets! Had them, don’t like them but paid them because I was SPEEDING!!

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